To sum it up, the Accelerator is a bit more of an all around performance small wave shortboard…..a little more versatile perhaps than the Rascal in the bigger and pushier stuff….the Rascal is almost like your cheating in small waves by how fast the thing goes……

Hi Todd,

I’ve been seriously looking at your boards on line and I’m very interested in the Lil’Rascal.

My Info:

Age- 43

Experience- Advanced

Weight- 190

Height- 5’11”

Wave’s surfed- East coast/Small mush to head high.

Quick History:

Been surfing all my adult life but had to move inland 10 years ago. I use to compete when I lived at the coast. I’m currently riding a custom Flyer (6’1”-20 ¼-2 ½) but not really happy with it. It performs fine in the pocket on powerful waves but it’s a dog trying to get down the line to out race close out sections and doing big roundhouse cutbacks. It also lacks drive for some reason? I’ve tried different fin set-ups and it’s helped but it’s still not what I expected when I ordered it. I don’t even bother taking it out in anything mushy. It just won’t work at all?

Since I now live inland, when I go surfing I encounter mostly small mushy conditions and I was even thinking about biting the bullet and getting a longboard. Nothing against longboarding but I still would rather ride a shortboard in small conditions if possible. However, there’s no way my Flyer can handle those conditions. I first started looking at Fish designs and that’s when I saw your Lil’Rascal. The design and idea behind it makes total sense to me.

What would your recommendations and specs be for my custom Lil’Rascal? My Flyer paddles ok but is a little sluggish on take offs. Maybe I need more volume or length? I would also like to think that I could gain a few more pounds in the future and that not be a problem too. What type fins, box, or plugs? I like the idea of getting it in the “Proxy” but what about the other upgrades? Would the 1.0 and 2.0 really be that critical for this board? Also, to make the board more versatile, could you switch out the small trailer fin for a larger one in bigger surf and still get good performance? I’m interested in any and all of your opinions.

Thanks for your time and I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

Tracy Peters

Greensboro, NC

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Hi Tracy,

Nice to meet you.

The Lil’ Rascal is the perfect board for you i.e. where your at with your surfing, type of waves, what you want to get out of your surfing, etc….

The magic dimensions for you would be: 6’0” x 21” x 2 5/8”. You will not have any problem flying on those small days, speeding around sections, or throwing down big gaffs on any little crumbler. You can ride this is up to head high waves, but it is primarily designed to be a smaller wave speed machine.

I recommend the futures fins system with larger MR style side fins and a small trailer, but you can change it up and run it with a regular thruster setup for more versatility in pushier waves.

The Proxy is the way to go. This is my premier board, both in performance and strength. The upgrades are not necessary for you on this type of board, unless you have a real bad time crushing in the decks of your boards, then it would be a good thing to get. But keep in mind the standard Proxy without any upgrades is so strong already (at least twice as strong as any poly), that the Kevlar upgrades just make it that much more resistant.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor Rascal for tearing apart the EC.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Todd,
Thanks for the fast info! It all sounds great. I have a couple other questions before we set-up a call for the order.

Do you think the dimensions you recommended would still be functional if I was to gain 10 more pounds in the future(from 190 to 200)? I can’t see myself ever getting over 200#’s.

Also, I’m a little unclear on the fins. You mentioned using “Futures Fin Systems” and the “MR” style side fins with small trailer below in the email. Are these not two different companies? Futures using square boxes and I didn’t find a MR fin model listed on there site . FCS has the MR fin but with the plugs instead of the Futures style box. If it’s FCS were talking about, I notice on there web site that they offer 2 different MR fins. Performance Glass(blue color) and Glass Flex(white). Which of these two do you recommend and why? If it’s Futures fins your recommending could you give me a model name that your referring to? If I have a choice between the two systems and since I’m familiar with FCS fin systems but not Futures, which of the 2 systems do you recommend and why?

As far as color and price, you mention on your site that for $715 the Proxy “comes standard with premium “s” glass cloth & one solid color or one color fade airbrush”. Are there examples on your site of the one color fade airbrush? For instance, can it be baby blue color fading into white? Is it the same fade pattern on both sides of the board only or can you get it on just one side?

One last dumb question: Do the proxy boards have a wooden stringer? By the way, your web site is excellent!

Thanks again,
Tracy

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Hi Tracy,

Those dims will still be work great for you at 190 or 200lbs.

I recommend going with futures. This company makes a stronger box which I think is better for bigger guys. Sometimes the f.c.s. plugs can roll on guys over 185 lbs. when using the larger side fins….a lot of leverage and displacement is going on when you’re bearing down on the bigger fins. The template closest to the MR style is called the FT-1 template. You can get them in standard composite plastic, or in fiberglass. Fiberglass is an upgrade of $65.00, but I think they work really good on the Rascals.

The color that comes standard is for both sides. You can do a light blue fade. I recommend going with two-tone light blues. Slightly darker on the rails with light blue fade center…that looks really good and we’ve done boards with that color scheme before. You can do baby blue into white fade, however the only issue is that eventually down the road the white area will take on a yellowish appearance. Normally with polyester boards, the foam yellows over time so you can paint over it to prevent yellowing to a certain degree. But with epoxy, it is primarily the resin which goes yellow over time, so it doesn’t do much aesthetically to spray the foam white.

I’ve tried many different types of stringers in the epoxies to get the right flex and strength….I’ve settled on a specific type of wood that exhibits the best flexural characteristics for performance and strength.

Well, hopefully that answers your questions. I know you would be stoked on a magic Rascal. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Hi Todd,

It’s getting real close to ordering time! But one more round of questions.

Question on fins: You recommended the FT1’s because it’s closest to the MR template. Well, I was looking at the Futures site and noticed the FEN template also. How does this template work in the Rascal compared to the FT1? The FEN’s look to be larger than the others.

Also, I’ve read in some surf forums that your proxy’s natural unfinished is a grayish color and it will not discolor down the road. Is this true because I like the less flashy colored boards. Maybe the natural finish with a thick black pipeline around the rails would be cool for me.

And one more, I saw on your web site theEccelerator board that really caught my eye. With the low entry rocker, flat deck, and fuller nose outline it reminded me of my old shortboard that I loved and still do except I out grew it. It’s a board that I got from Wayne Bartholomew back in the 80’s. It’s a 5’10 Hot Stuff with the Billabong and round Bugs Bunny/WB logo under the glass, shaped by Allen Byrne with “Bugs” penciled in on the foam at the stringer. It’s really cool! It’s the board I was trying to replace when I bought the Flyer. Since it resembles my Rabbit board I was wondering what Dims and fin template you might suggest for me in your Accelerator model. Do you recommended it for east coast type waves?

Thanks again,

Tracy

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Hi Tracy,

I answered your questions below…..

Aloha,

Todd

Hi Todd,

It’s getting real close to ordering time! But one more round of questions.

Question on fins: You recommended the FT1’s because it’s closest to the MR template. Well, I was looking at the Futures site and noticed the FEN template also. How does this template work in the Rascal compared to the FT1? The FEN’s look to be larger than the others. The FEN’s work really good too. I was just talking to a guy who is around 195lbs and he really likes the FEN template. I think this would be a good call.

Also, I’ve read in some surf forums that your proxy’s natural unfinished is a grayish color and it will not discolor down the road. Is this true because I like the less flashy colored boards. Maybe the natural finish with a thick black pipeline around the rails would be cool for me. The gray boards were our Flexible Epoxy version 1. The new Flexible Epoxy v.2 ….we call it the Proxy comes standard with a two color fade…..Two option that I think you would be stoked on since they are low key, yet cool looking are: either the two-tone grey fade, or the two-tone light blue/gray fade. Either of these look great. We could do a black pinline for an additional $25.00, or black rails for an additional $25.00.

And one more, I saw on your web site the Accelerator board that really caught my eye. With the low entry rocker, flat deck, and fuller nose outline it reminded me of my old shortboard that I loved and still do except I out grew it. It’s a board that I got from Wayne Bartholomew back in the 80’s. It’s a 5’10 Hot Stuff with the Billabong and round Bugs Bunny/WB logo under the glass, shaped by Allen Byrne with “Bugs” penciled in on the foam at the stringer. It’s really cool! It’s the board I was trying to replace when I bought the Flyer. Since it resembles my Rabbit board I was wondering what Dims and fin template you might suggest for me in your Accelerator model. Do you recommended it for east coast type waves? I remember those boards….I even had a shirt when I was a grommet that said, “Bred to Shred”….it had the bunny….the whole deal. The Accelerator is a great board for performance surfing in small waves…great for the east coast. The Rascal is going to be your fastest, best bet I think for the majority of days i.e. small mushy…..the Rascal just has more flat out speed than the Accelerator. The Accelerator is the board for that next slight bump up from what the Rascal thrives in …..it would be more for waves that have a slight bit more face in them….waist high up to head high….

To sum it up, the Accelerator is a bit more of an all around performance small wave shortboard…..a little more versatile perhaps than the Rascal in the bigger and pushier stuff….the Rascal is almost like your cheating in small waves by how fast the thing goes……

Best Accelerator dimensions would be: 6’4” x 20” x 2 5/8”….nose around 12” + and tail around 15”.

Please fee free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on a magic Rascal …..and if you can do it, I’d get an Accelerator too.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Basically, I want a board that will allow me to find my way back to ripping and grooving … with the compromise that, at 205, I don’t want a board that requires perfect waves to get up to speed (we don’t get them often enough up here ) ….

Hello Todd …. nice website .. really like the personal touch you have in creating and selling your boards. I grew surfing here in LA. My work (and serious focus on music) has pulled me out of the water for the last 8 years. I’m finally at place where I have the time and stability to get back.

Generally, with sports, I’m like to push-it … i.e., I have an aggressive style .. skating, skiing, snow-boarding, surfing, dirt bikes (I’ve broken a lot of bones). I’m getting up there in the years (37 years old) and I haven’t surfed for awhile .. but I imagine my surfing personality will be the same as it was when I was a kid. I’m 6′ and about 205 lbs … most of my boards have been 6′1” or 6′ 3”.

Basically, I want a board that will allow me to find my way back to ripping and grooving … with the compromise that, at 205, I don’t want a board that requires perfect waves to get up to speed (we don’t get them often enough up here ) ….

what would you recommend?

Cheers,
Sigi

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Hi Sigi,

I know the perfect board to get you back into it and ripping…..6’8” x 20” x 2 5/8” Groveler IV.p. This is my most versatile performance shortboard design since it generates it’s own speed in small waves, yet holds in and surfs fast and loose in punchier top-to-bottom conditions. The bottom has single-to-inset double concaves which give it a wide open sweet spot….this type of bottom makes it easy to find your footing to get the board to fly. This is a fuller board than what you rode back in the day. More board is what you need for your height and weight and for the transition back. Down the road if you want to drop down you can, but you will probably want to just stay with these dimensions since it has all the responsiveness or a modern high performance board.

I grew up surfing Malibu….we might recognize each other….

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor custom.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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That sounds great … as long as you’re certain this board will be nice and loose.  My first reaction is to be very afraid of a board this long.

I was once talked into buying a 6′8” Stewart ’shortboard’ that I hated b/c it just wanted to go straight .. super stable, great for carving on bigger faster waves  but it did not like to snap turns.

I really want a board that feels loose and responsive. I might be wrong, but I don’t expect to spend too long getting back into form .. and with the prices being what they are these days … I’d rather get something that I’m forced to grow into than get something that’ll I’ll want to trade-out in 6 months.

So … I won’t want to trade this out in 6 months right?

btw … I didn’t surf Malibu much … I was always on a tiny board … that didn’t float me… losing waves to long boarders … so, I mainly surfed Zero’s, County, and Zuma .. back in the day I mainly surfed boards shaped by Dan Egan (IG surfboards) … long time ago …

Cheers,
Sigi

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Hi Sigi,

Ok….so why don’t we go a little shorter to 6’6” x 19 5/8” x 2 5/8”. ….and no you won’t need to swap this board out in six months….very fast, loose and snappy. Guaranteed to huck buckets and bring the stoke back. Would you want to go with polyester, or custom epoxy/ Proxy technology?

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Played B-day Hooky yesterday and when out w/ a borrowed board … one taste and my addiction is back 100%.   So …  how much for this board in the different forms (I don’t require any aesthetic anything).   I found a basic description of the epoxy/proxy thing on your site but I’m still not clear on what the pros/cons are compared with the poly.  Is there more info you can point me to?

Thanks,
Sigi

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Hi Sigi,

Happy Birthday!!… Sounds like it was a good one.

Standard polyesters start at $555.00 and includes fin system and fins. If you go this route I suggest getting two upgrades that will add significant strength and longer life to your board without adding weight or rigidity…..Y2K-uv resin ($20.00) – the highest grade of polyester resin made. It is also light cured so your board is cured when you pick it up. No waiting, just straight into the water. The other upgrade is D-size glass ($14.00) or S-glass ($35.00). These are higher grades of fiberglass than the standard “E” glass that is typically used in the boardbuilding industry…..D-size is stronger, and S-glass is much stronger. Both of these glass upgrades also add strength with adding weight. This gives you the strongest possible polyester board available.

The premium board I make is the Proxy series. This is our unique custom epoxy process refined over the course of the last eight years. These boards are much stronger than any polyester, they are lighter, slightly more buoyant, and they keep that lively “new board” feel under your feet much longer than polyester boards do. The Proxy custom epoxy starts at $715.00 and also includes fin system and fins. If you have the budget for it, I always recommend going with the Proxy technology – the best in both performance and strength.

Well, please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Thanks for the consultation on all of this …  looks like the price difference between the poly w/ upgrades and the proxy is only around 100 bucks  .. so, I’ll likely go for the proxy.

I’m expecting the final notice on a big research grant I’m getting in 1 or 2 weeks (I’m a scientist) … the board will be my celebratory reward to myself for getting the grant.   I’ll email you then and order the board.

cheers,
Sigi

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‘m a 6′0″ 195-200 pounds surfer and I’m really interested in a fish surfboard

hello tod,

I’m a 6′0″ 195-200 pounds surfer and I’m really interested on a
fish and
a lil rascal surfboards. my regular shortboards are 6′4″*191/2*21/2.
I also
ride a channel island retro fish 5′10″*21*25/8, my skill level is
somewhere
between intermediate and pro surfer, I would really love to try this
two
surfboards from you, please feel free to sugest what dimensions of
the fish
and the lil rascal surfboards so I can order them from you as soon
as
posible, hope hearing from you soon,

francoherrera

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Hi Francoherrera,
Nice to meet you.
The magic dimensions for a Twin Fang (retro fish) for you would stay
the
same at: 5′10″ x 21″ x 2 5/8″. The magic dimensions for the
Lil’Rascal would
be: 5′11″- 6′0″ x 20 1/2″ x 2 9/16″. Both boards have a pretty flat
rocker
and a single-to-double-to-spiral vee bottom which makes for a very
fast,
lively board that flies like a speed monger, yet has a positive hold
like a
more modern design…..sort of a blending of old concepts and new.
Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.
I know you would be stoked on these unique little speedy wonders - a
magic
Twin Fang and Lil’Rascal.
Looking forward to your reply,
Aloha,

Todd

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hello todd

thank you for your quick reply to my e-mail, I’m really looking foward to
try your surfboards. next thing I need is the prices for those two
surfboards. the twin fang would be the same dimensions you recomended
(5′10″*21*25/ with glass on fins and resin artwork #11. for the lil rascal
I would like to try it at 6′0″*201/2*29/16 with the same resin artwork of
the red lil rascals that you have for sale in the shop of your website,
thank you so much again for your services, aloha

franco herrera

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Franco,
I had my wife Charissa send you a breakdown of all the pricing for the two
boards. If you have any other questions regarding further design info, or
pricing for any other upgrades i.e. fin options, gloss and polish finish,
etc… please feel free to ask. Looking forward to making some magic boards
for you.
Aloha,

Todd

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hello todd

please let me know the way to place the order for the surfboards, what’s the best way ?troght your website? or I can just send all the information and arrange payment this same way, pleaselet me know so I can order them soon. thank you again so much for your time and services aloha

franco herrera

I have been having a lot of really good results with the mini- performance Longboard shapes…..super maneuverable, fast, top-to-bottom, etc…!!

Todd,

I am having trouble landing my next board, I love the HP longboard I have but would like to play a little harder with the board, this means
Latter takes off
Top to bottom
place the board in smaller pockets
My idea is to take the HP LB model, have it made mini LB 8′0 x 21 x 2 5/8 with an Ellipse outline, ( pull in nose) looking for same speed down the line
with a bit more forgiving board.

Another idea is get the Ellipise model, Hi performnce version, same 8′0 x 21 x 2 5/8

What do you think

Roberto

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Hola Roberto,

Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Things have been very busy here….

Anyway, here’s what I think….

Sounds like you are enjoying the Performance Longboard, so I would just drop the dimensions down like you are thinking: 8’0” x 21 ¼”” x 2 9/16” with a round pin/ thumbtail with a little more tail rocker just off the fins. This will give you a board that fits tighter in the pocket, that surfs more top-to-bottom, and will handle later take offs.

The Ellipse is a completely different board….I would do that one at a later time down the road.

I have been having a lot of really good results with the mini- performance Longboard shapes…..super maneuverable, fast, top-to-bottom, etc…!!

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Todd, lets do what you recomend is good advise.

Please process this board:

Mini LB Hi percformance

8′0 x 21 1/4 x 2 5/8
Nose 16 1/2
Tail    13 3/4
Rockers: with a little more tail rocker just off the fins
Tail shape: Rounded Pin
Color. Canary yellow bottom and rails, resin tint
Dark Cedar stringer,  On the house
FCS side bites plus box fin

I will be looking foward to pick the board in Ventura early January 2008.

Roberto

however the performance is much better with the Proxy - the flex characterstics are very springy and lively under the feet and they keep their life much longer than a polyester

Hey Todd,

I really like the look of your proxy boards. I currently ride a 6’6” Webber afterburner surftech and a 6’8” JC Hawaii PMM surftech here in NorCal – I love the shapes, the lightness and the strength of these surfboards but dislike the stiffness.

What would you suggest in your line of proxy shapes to keep the good characteristics of what I like about the surftechs but with flex? Do the proxy surfboards have stringers? (I ask this because I duck-dive with my knee and destroy fiberglass board’s glassing along the stringer)

Here is basically what I like;

6’6” to 6’8” length

Single to double-concave bottom contour

19 ¼” to 19 5/8” width

The surftechs I have are almost 2 ½” thick (about 2.44”) so I presume a 2 ½” proxy would work?

Medium entry rocker and moderate tail rocker

Also I’m an intermediate surfer (surfing for 15 years but I’m almost 40) and I mostly surf beach breaks like Ocean Beach, SF (2-8ft)

Any help appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
Dave.

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Hi Dave,

Apologies for not getting back with you sooner…..have been very busy….

If you are still looking for that magic board, here is what I recommend: 6’7” x 19 ½” x 2 ½” Groveler IV.p. The Proxy has a stringer, but the construction of these boards is such that they are as strong as the molded boards that you are accustomed to…..however the performance is much better with the Proxy - the flex characterstics are very springy and lively under the feet and they keep their life much longer than a polyester. You may want to think about upgrading to the Kevlar compression patch for extra strength

Not knowing your height or weight, and strictly going off the dimensions you detailed out of the Surftech construction, I think splitting the dims right down the center would be the way to go. The Proxy is more buoyant than polyesters, but not corky and on top of the water like a Surftech…..so go with something just a slight bump up from what you’ve been getting, but not quite as thick as you would go for a polyester.

As for the design, the Groveler IV.p has a single to double concave bottom which makes for a very drivey board with a wide open sweet spot. The entry rocker is moderate to get into waves with ease and for quick bursts of speed down the line. There is a flatter area between the feet which gives the board a good engine to fly through flat sections….and the tail rocker is moderate, but with enough bend in it to respond like lightning when thrown into a turn. This design generates its own speed in small waves, yet holds in and surfs fast, top-to-bottom and in the pocket on the punchier days…..this is what makes it my most versatile performance shortboard design. Ocean Beach has a lot of different faces to it given the day, so that is why I think this board would be the magic for you. Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a custom Proctor Groveler IV.p.

Looking forward to your reply (and I will get back to you quicker this time),

Aloha,

Todd

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• Fusion Core – Premium grade eps foam fused under higher pressure yields greater compression strength. This core is slightly more buoyant than polyurethane foam, so the boards can be ridden smaller and fit in the pocket of the wave better.

• High impact rails drive through turns and hold up to a beating.

• Instead of just using standard fiberglass cloth in the glassing process, a combination of S-glass, inter-woven composite fabrics and Kevlar (a product that’s five times stronger than steel on an equal weight basis) are employed.

• Kevlar compression patch – this is a sheet of Kevlar, not a green airbrush. The beauty of this material is that it increases a board’s compression strength (the deck from crushin in), while maintaining the positive flex characteristics.

• Reinforced carbon-hinged flextail – A thinner tail makes for better flex and a more lively feeling board by reducing rigidity and increasing torque. Interwoven carbon-kevlar composite has a rapid recoil flex memory that acts as a hinge to slingshot the board out of turns, as well as protecting the toe and heel areas of the rails from crushing in over time.

• Single-to-inset-double concaves – I feel this is one of the most versatile bottom contours you can run in the modern performance shortboard. It has a wide-open sweet spot, is really drivey and predictable in waves small to large; and it allows you to break the tail free when you want to.

• Flatter deck – I typically go ½” to one inch shorter, 1/8” narrower, and 1/16” thinner than your poly board. By using more buoyant materials, you don’t need to hide foam in the center of the board. The less-domey deck that’s achieved increases the flex characteristics of the board.

• Uniquely formulated epoxy resins that have more elongation, or elasticity allow flex lengthwise as well as laterally throughout the board. This increases the performance of the board as well as its flex life/ longevity.

• All fin systems are available including glass-ons (shown here) which are rare on epoxy boards.

• Environmentally friendly – when a traditional p/u board’s life is over, there’s only one place it can go….to a landfill where it sits for 100 years before it starts to decompose. “Proxy” technology is recyclable.

• Made custom in the free world from concept to construction. It’s your board….talk to the shaper.

Todd Proctor

Shaper’s notes:
I‘ve been working on alternative surfboard materials for 10 years with the commitment to improve technology while enhancing performance. I believe surfboard building is a unique hands-on process that will always be done best by the innovators who love the sport. The unique construction detailed here is done in our factory in Ventura, California. I custom design every board using cutting edge computer assisted design software. This allows me to detail every board keeping the quality, consistency and custom aspects of my shaping always at the forefront.

Surfer’s Feedback:
…the board I’ve been so ravin’ about lately is that Blackbird, the Proxy one. That thing’s incredible. Thanks mate. Jay Phillips, Gold Coast, Oz

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The Lil’ Rascal is the best board for those small days when your normal shortboard won’t get going. It is also a very high performance design that is very responsive.

Todd,

I am looking for some advice on a new small wave board. I was thinking about the lil rascal. I have been surfing for 10+ years. I am 5′7″, 165-175lbs and spend half of my time in new england where wetsuits are a necessity and also travelling to warmer water where it would be nice to have a board that opens up my options a bit. I am looking for the shortest possible board since I am not exactly tall but want to be able to go out in dribble that’s not an option with my normal shortboard and experiment with a new shape(for me anyway). I am sold on epoxy. I have no experience riding any of the “fish” designs so I could use some help choosing dimensions. I am also curious about the quad fin setup. Any advice would be appreciated.

p.s. What’s the turn around time for custom boards right now?

jameson bergen
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Hi Jameson,

The Lil’ Rascal is the best board for those small days when your normal shortboard won’t get going. It is also a very high performance design that is very responsive. The best dimensions for you would be: 5’5” x 19 ½” x 2 5/16”. I recommend going with what I call the five leaf clover. It is a fin set up that allows you to ride the board as a tri fin or quad. The preferred set up on the Rascal is the larger MR style twin fins for the sides and a small trailer for the back fin. It works great as a quad as well too (very drivey through rail turns)…..variety of fin setups to experiment with….I think the five fin setup would be the best way for you to go; Basically two boards in one.

Standard turnaround is 4-6 weeks. Two week rush orders are available for an additional $75.00.

The Proxy/ Proctor custom epoxy Rascal is $715.00…..five fin option with additional set of quad fins is $60.00. You don’t need any other upgrades since the Proxy technology is our state-of-the art highest grade materials already built in.

We require 50% to start all custom orders; Final payment due at completion of board just prior to shipment.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on a magic Proxy Rascal.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,
Todd
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Todd,

Thanks for the help. I want to order the board in the dimensions you gave me. I would also like to add the five fin option. Should I order through the website or contact you directly? Is it possible to pay the 50% down on the website? Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks again,
jameson
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Todd,

I sure you don’t remember me but a few years back you made some boards for my friends and I over in Okinawa Japan. The 3 boards you made for me went off! I have ben land locked for the past 3 years and just learned we are headed out of here to Northern Japan. With all that said, I need to see about getting a few boards shaped and sent to me while I am in the states and shipping them with my other stuff to Japan. I need at least 3 boards and am trying to convince the wife on a fourth. I am 30 years old, 5′5″ and 120 pounds and a decent surfer. I spoke to a few friends that have surfed up there and most of it is beachbreark or points with rock bottoms. The waves are supposed to be decent and even having some size quite often. Here are the boards I am thinking of and off curse I am look for you suggestions.

Glassing - is the new epoxy worth it? Last time I asked about epoxy you said stay with normal glass.

Short board
5′11 X 18 1/4 X 2 1/2 - squash tail, single to double

Groveler
5′8″ X 18 1/2 X 2 3/4 - squash or swallow, ?
I had an 80″s board in Okinawa and it was about 5′6″x19X3, with little rocker. That board was the funest board in small surf, road like a short board not a fish and could handle up to head surf. I am looking for an updated version of that.

Larger wave board / Mini gun
6′4″ X 18 1/4 X 2 3/8 - Rounded pin tail, single to double

Maybe a fun board

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Hi Chris,
I remember you…it’s been awhile. Glad you’re moving back to some
waves…that should brighten the spirits!
About the boards: All sounds good as far as dimensions go…just the
thicknesses seem a bit thick. I’m thinking around 2 1/4″ for the
thicknesses on the little boards and around 2 5/16″ for the 6′4″ round
pin. How often do you plan on surfing when you get to Japan…once in
awhile or quite a bit.
If it is going to just be a couple times a month or something like
that, then I suggest going thicker, but not if you are surfing any more
than that because you will want to keep the performance in the boards.
Too much thickness can detract from a boards’ maneuverability.
I have an insane new short board design that I know you would freek on
for the 5′11″, and I also have an “80’s” style shape that has just been
added to the board line…it is a very fun free, fast board that
requires little work to be speeding; the deck on the “80’s” model is
very flat/ slightly concave and the rails are kept very full to
redistribute plenty of volume to make it floaty and easy to paddle. The
6′4″ rounded pin for the next level up when the waves start pushing
works great with a single to double concave with a slight vee off the
back fin to rail in through turns.

The new “Flexible Epoxy” I’ve been doing lately is unreal…Super light,
super strong, with a flex characteristic that springs the board lively
through turns. they are more >expensive, but it is incredible technology.
If you were going to get only one board out of the flexible epoxy I
would go with either the little board or the 5′11″ since these materials
work really best for performance boards in the ankle to slightly overhead zone.

Let me know your time frame and we’ll get you dialed in. Let me know
any other questions you may have as well. Looking forward to your reply.
Aloha,

Todd

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Todd,
Wow, I did not expect to here back from you so soon. I am going to be surfing as much as possible, I have ben informed that you can only surf up till november maybe December and can not get back into the water until after March. The reason I am going for a little thicker board is for more paddling power esspicaily since I will be in a thick suit most of the time. I also wanted it for the less powerful beachbreacks. All my boards before have ben only 2 -2 1/4 and the fish you made me went off but was still allot of work in smaller waves. Any suggestions?

On the glassing how would I go about fixing dings on the Epoxy? Also I read about your uv cure and new cloths, how much better are they than normal glassing. I am trying not to spend over 1300.00 for all 3 boards if possible, but I also need them to last. I know you get what you pay for but what are my best options? Still need to buy at least 3 suits also. Any suggestions for really cold water?

Chris

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Hi Chris,
Since 2 1/4″ was feeling a bit thin for you, then I think your original
idea is good to go with 2 1/2″ thicknesses. You can get an epoxy ding
repair kit from us with your board to fix any scrapes and dings, but
you cannot use regular resin with the epoxy. It is the same procedure
to fix dings, the only thing different is you have to use epoxy resin
(which comes with the kit).
Since your budget doesn’t quite add up for an epoxy and two other
boards; I would go with one epoxy and one regular board, or two regular
boards with UV resin and S-glass - these two things add a significant
amount of strength to your board without adding weight….strongly
recommended.
The other option is to get three standard boards….if you want to go
that route, I can hook you up for the difference since you’ll be
getting three boards. I am also a distributor for Billabong wetsuits
and there is a great 5/4/3 with hood that is super warm; or my favorite
is a 4/3 solution.
Their suits are the best, super warm and super comfortable and they
hold up really well. How cold of water do you need the suits for?
Let me know any questions you may have.
Talk to you later.
Aloha,

Todd

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Todd,

I think I might be able to squeak out enough money for 3 boards with UV resin, S-glass and FCS.Would I use sun cure to fix dings?
Can you give me a essimate for the 3 boards and what about shipping to New Mexico?
Yea the thickness felt fine in my short board and mini gun @ 2 1/4 but not in my fish @ 2 1/4. I just want to add a little paddling power with out hurting performance to much. I know there are many ways you can do this so let me know what you think would be best. I am not a great paddler and will be wearing suits all year.

The water temp up there is quite cold, it gets down to 32 w/ a high of around 62. I will be needing 3 suits @ around 6/4 or 5/4, 4/3 and 3/2 hoods, botties and gloves. I have a spring suit for those few warm days. I want to try and get the warmest and best suits with water temps that low. So let me know.

Thanks for the work you are doing with me on this. Great boards and service is the reason I will keep coming back.

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My friends and I would like to order a used board each (total of 3).  The Roberts 7′, the SR-71 6′1″, and something like the 6′3″ Lost Mayhem…

Eventually I’d like to get a new board, I’m trying to switch from longboard to shortboard…is the Roberts a good board for this?

What would shipping be to Misawa, Japan? with the bag, leash, and traction package?  could you give me a quote?  Thanks.

Pete Czajkowski

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Hi Peter,

There are a few ways you can go. The 7’0” Roberts is not here anymore so that is a no go, but I do have a 6’10” x 20 ½” x 2 ¾”+ used Proctor Big Chief model that is in great shape and would be really good for you – this board is $400.00 and a smokin’ deal….probably won’t be here long. The other option is a Big Chief new that I have here in stock….it is 6’10” x 20” x 2 5/8” for $575.00 – this is a sick board too. Regarding these two boards, since they are both the “Big Chief” model, here is a brief rundown on the Big Chief design – it is a very versatile board generating speed in small waves, yet holding in and surfing fast and tight in the pocket on the punchier days…..the perfect board for your build and for transitioning to shortboard.

The closest thing to the Lost Chris Ward model is the “Blackbird” model (only much better of course….). I have one here in stock that is 6’1” x 18 ½” x 2 ¼”….or I can make him one custom with those same dimensions. Polyester starts at $555.00….the “Proxy” custom epoxy starts at $715.00 (both include fins and fins sytem – I recommend the futures fin system.) Your military discount is 10% off of the prices listed above.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have.

I know you would be stoked on some magic Proctors.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Hey Todd

Thanks for the info…

I would like to get the 6′10″ Big Chief can I pay for that board and the full kit (Bag, Leash, Traction) and a ding repair kit while I conjure up the orders for the other guys?

One friend of mine who is interested in ordering is 5′11″ and 165 lbs, he is a beginner and would be in the same surf conditions.  He was wondering what you would recommend for him.  He really likes the look of the Fish Shape, so if you have something in that style that would be good for him, please let me know.

Thanks for all your help.

Peter

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Developed specifically for heavier surfers and/or those that surf more off their rail; this is the shortboard you can rip on and not sink on. Heavier surfers and those that grew up surfing during the 80’s era tend to surf more with their rails then off their fins. So the fuller rails of this design are essential for a board that “pushes back” and drives through turns. Increased volume, especially under the chest, affords ease in paddling. A versatile rocker and a single-to-double concave bottom generates incredible speed in the small stuff, yet maintains the essential responsiveness for quick direction changes in the pocket. There’s a slight vee off the back fin that gives the board a positive directional hold through turns.

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Ordering Info When you process an order by clicking on the add to cart button, you will be ordering a custom Proctor Surfboard in the model pictured here. This means that all of the specifics including dimensions, colorwork, glassing layups, fin systems, etc. will be decided by you and Todd once your order is received and we contact you for a phone or e-mail appointment with Todd. It’s your board…talk to the shaper. Payment Info We will only process 50% down payment for the listed price when we receive your order. The rest will be charged to your credit card when we complete your surfboard. Turnaround Time Current turnaround time on a custom surfboard is 6 - 8 weeks. Client Testimonials Aloha,
I got the board and it was in perfect shape. I cant wait to ride it I love the shape and I know I will be terrorizing on it, we just need some swell. I am also totally stoked on the epoxy. Ive surfed it in small waves and some over head barrels at Waipio Valley and it handled great. It paddles well and it is super fast -it also holds well in steep waves. Im very pleased with it… I will definatley be ordering more boards in the future. Todd’s shapes kick a#% -I think he is some kind of board psychic, they are exactly what I needed.
Aloha, Jason

Jason Shurley, 34, Kailua Kona, HI
6′10″ x 20″ x 2 5/8″ Big Chief Flexible Epoxy Todd,
I just returned from Rincon Puerto Rico. I scored great waves at Maria’s and Domes(solid 6-8). I used the board that you made for me this past Spring. I had the best sessions I have had yet do in large part because of the magic board. I had a major break through in my surfing and I can’t tell you how excited I am about that. I will be ordering another board from you this Spring. Thanks again.

Craig Kaufman, New York
6′10″ x 20″ x 2 5/8″ Squash Big Chief Hi Todd,
I love my new board!
I just wanted to thank you and everyone at Proctor Surfboards for building me a great board. I am convinced this board is made of the finest materials and represents the finest quality workmanship available today.
I especially appreciate the time you took discussing the design with me so the board will work the way I expected. You shaped me a board that works for me for the type of surfing I do.
From the first wave I caught I got very positive feedback that built my confidence in the board while feeling a very fast and loose board under my feet that wanted to get up and go. I also get many compliments on the airbrush work. It really turned out nice.
Thanks again. I look forward to many good sessions on my new Proctor surfboard.

Mike Kliszewski, 42, Torrance, CA
6′10″ x 20 3/4″ x 2 7/8″ Big Chief

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The most versatile performance shortboard design I make is the Groveler IV.p. This board generates incredible speed in small waves, yet holds in and surfs fast and tight in the pocket on the punchier days

Hi Todd, I recently found your website through a friend, by the way great site. I believe my friend, Pete, has been coordinating with you on a future purchase for Misawa Japan. We are currently rounding up individuals who are interested in buying so we can consolidate the shipment. Before I purchase, I thought maybe you could help steer me in the right direction before I make my final decision on a board. I’ve been sponging since I was a grom so I’m not entirely unfamiliar with wave riding. In the last year I’ve takin up long boarding but in that time I’ve acquired a fever for a short board. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with the surf  conditions here but its mushy the majority of the time, although there are occasional morning sessions that are nearly perfect, Head high and super clean shoulders that would rival my homebreak, Oceanside Cali. Surf is usually knee/waist to overhead high, especially large on typhoon swells. Ultimately, I want to bust some fat airs…but first thing is first, where should I begin? I’d like a board that will help me get to that stage… I know I’ll be a pretty aggressive rider once I get it down. I need something for early entry as well as late drops because there’s a beach break where I spend most of my surf sessions which has some insane shorebreaks. I’m 5′9 at 171lbs. I’m not quite sure what other info to mention, please let me know if you need any further info. Oh, Im lookin at a price range in the $500/600 area.

Any advice is greatly appreciated and thanks for the great service you provide!

Sincerely,

Edward Gadd

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Hi Edward,

The best thing for you to do at this point is to go with a versatile performance shortboard design that is slightly oversize from what someone your height and weight (that has ridden shortboards for a long time already) would typically ride. The most versatile performance shortboard design I make is the Groveler IV.p. This board generates incredible speed in small waves, yet holds in and surfs fast and tight in the pocket on the punchier days. The best dimensions for you would be 6’6” x 19” x 2 7/16” with a squashtail. I recommend going with polyester construction since they start at $555.00 (including fins and fins system). I recommend getting two upgrades for this board to increase the strength without increasing the price substantially. The first is Y2K resin for $20.00 – this is the strongest polyester resin available and will add longer life to your board. I also recommend D-size glass for an additional $14.00 – this will also add significant strength and life to your board. Your military discount is 10% off your total price.

Please feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I know you would be stoked on a magic Proctor Groveler IV.p.

Looking forward to your reply,

Aloha,

Todd

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Todd, thanks so much for the info…so stoked, I believe I will go with your recommendation (to include both upgrades). My friends and I just need to get our order together. Just a couple more questions, how much are we lookin at for the shipment of four boards and how much extra for leash and traction?

Thanks again!

Cheers,
Ed

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